Demi Moore and Alec Baldwin come together after 20 years for their latest release Blind
Hollywood actress Demi Moore gives her thoughts on love, divorce and marriage alongside everyone’s favourite Donald Trump impersonator Alec Baldwin, who stars with Demi in new film Blind. It’s been over 20 years since Demi Moore and Alec Baldwin last starred in a film together. The pair teamed up for the first time in 1996 for The Juror and they are back on screen soon with new film Blind. The film – directed by Michael Mailer – tells the story of a blind novelist [Baldwin] who rediscovers his passion for life and writing when he embarks on an affair with the neglected wife [Moore] of an indicted businessman.
So when this project came up, was it always meant as a reunion? Or was it just you came on or you came on, and then it happened?
Demi Moore: I’ll let you speak, because it was Alec and Michael Mailer who had their motors going.
Alec Baldwin: For these movies you go, they rise, they fall, they’re either going to get made, they’re not going to get made. Finally, when we got this group together, which includes Dylan by the way, because I think you’ve got to have somebody well known in all three roles. We live in a world now where film financing is something where they want Julia Roberts to play the nurse in one scene. They want names in every role. But I wanted to do the film and we got her to do the film and her schedule and him, then we were ready to go.
What do you remember about the The Juror where you first met?
Alec Baldwin: I have a few distinct memories.
Demi Moore: We met long before that, when we were both little babies.
Alec Baldwin: In the early Eighties. What I remember was that George Dawes Green who wrote the book The Juror was a best-selling thriller.
Demi Moore: His memory is incredible. It’s crazy.
Alec Baldwin: He was the …
Demi Moore: What was the date that it was published? [laughs]
Alec Baldwin: That was on Penguin, that was the imprint. No. George Dawes Green wrote the book and adapting that kind of book and the behaviour of the people was tough.Ted … don’t embarrass me. Google Silence of the Lambs.
Alec Baldwin: Ted Tally. He wrote the screenplay and Irwin Winkler produced and an amazing group of people. Brian Gibson, who did What’s Love Got to Do with It? did the whole thing.
Demi Moore: Joseph Gordon-Levitt played my son. And James Gandolfini was one of the enforcers.
Alec Baldwin: I kill him. I cut his throat.
This is such a different movie, quite a romantic movie in a way, about two people who sort of find each other unexpectedly.
Demi Moore: Yeah. I think they’re two people who in different ways have completely lost their identity and in a way, each at a bottom. Yours very different, but hers in a very raw way – you’ve been dealing with it – but who kind of find each other at a time when in a way, they don’t have anything else to lose.
Alec Baldwin: I’m lucky because you’ve got to get people who can play. This, It’s kind of quiet. There’s one really rip-snorting scene where he attacks me, her husband, Dylan. But the rest of the movie is an attempt, which is always harder for me, to just let it live and be honest and be real and assume that that’s enough. Because I’ve worked with directors who are always like, they want more acting.
Alec Baldwin: Yeah, ‘Do more’. To work with people who can play in that key which is very honest, it emboldens you to do the same. She’s very real. She’s not doing a lot of stuff. It was nice to be able to do a movie where we sat in that world and that tone.
Did you do anything specific before the movie began about playing Blind?
Alec Baldwin: Honestly speaking, visiting the Lighthouse for the Blind. We both went there together, interviewed blind people who were born blind, became blind, and talked to them about … Go ahead.
Demi Moore: No, exploring. We had, particularly the woman really speaks so openly on a very intimate level about how it is to be with someone in a romantic way. How do you navigate that? How does it work?
Alec Baldwin: In that way, the people tell you with their eyes. They tell you. You go to the checkout counter and the checkout girl is like, ‘That’ll be 4.95.’ And there’s something going on where you read people. When that’s removed, how do you read people? They have got a very reliable programme for that.
Demi Moore: It becomes much more internal, which is such an interesting thing, that they have to go through.
Alec Baldwin: Feel.
Demi Moore: And probably in a much more deep and truthful way.
What do you thing the movie is really saying about love, divorce and marriage?
Alec Baldwin: You ask us like you think we’re experts on love, divorce and marriage. [laughs] How presumptuous of you. I think that for me the movie says and this is true in my life and it’s very basic is, no risk, no reward. The risk-free life is just not the way to go. You have to risk it.
Demi Moore: And that it’s never too late.
You’re two people who have famously been divorced and remarried. Where do you get the hope after going through something that can be so devastating?
Demi Moore: Where does anybody? I think you have to look at life as having.
Demi Moore: Yeah and that has a public element to your pain being exposed, but it’s all relative. Everyone’s pain we all experience the same and you can either give up or show up and keep moving forward, and it isn’t easy, always.
Alec Baldwin: I think you and I, we had our hard times and it got us down. Then eventually you and I, I think one thing we have in common is we woke up and we said, ‘Why wouldn’t anybody want to be with me?’ [laughs]
Demi Moore: We’re like Phoenixes and we just rise. We just rise.
The Hollywood Reporter this week just said, ‘This is the year of Alec Baldwin.’
Alec Baldwin: Wow. What do they know?
Boss Baby, $275 million or something. It’s really a personal triumph.
Alec Baldwin: It did $500 million worldwide, yeah.
There will be undoubtedly a sequel?
Alec Baldwin: Yeah, we signed a sequel.
Demi Moore: I don’t get to be a Boss Baby? [laughs]
The trump thing with SNL? Will that continue?
Alec Baldwin: I’m sure it will in some sense. Lorne [Michaels] is obviously the great arbiter of that and he’s very smart.
Demi Moore: If it doesn’t cut into his weekends. [laughs]
Alec Baldwin: Right, I want to be with my kids. But we’ll do something.
Has trump barred you the way he has some people from Twitter?
Alec Baldwin: I really don’t know. I really don’t keep track of that, because obviously what I’m doing now is reading the news, reading my feed. Twitter for me is a news feed among other things, and I’m trying to read it and hack my way toward what really matters. I’ve learned, it’s taken me a while, what is really trite.
Is this a planned thing – ‘I want to go back to work some more?’
Demi Moore: I think the intention of yeah, things gearing up and then it aligning, because this obviously we shot awhile back, so it’s interesting how the universe worked to actually converge them to be coming out at the same time, which was perfect. We were shooting it at the end of 2015.
You end up in Paris at the very end and she says, ‘Paris has always been my favourite city.’ Does that strike you as something you would say?
Demi Moore: It is one of my favourite cities, but there was something in that when we were doing that scene I was thinking about that, like somebody who had a dream but it got so buried. Her dream got so buried and she got so disconnected from that girl that she used to be. That was one of my favourite things in that.
Alec, what would you say is your favourite city?
Since I met my wife, I don’t know why I have this very peculiar love affair with Madrid. My wife was raised in Spain and when we go to Spain and go to Madrid I love that, because the Spanish people are very kind and loving, but polite. They’re not too aggressive. They nod to you and they ask if you want to take a picture. Although my favourite moment, I think I told this to you, is I was at the Prado and I go to see the Velazquez Christ, which is the most beautiful painting in my mind of Christ on the Cross. I go to see it and I meander through the Prado one day and I get tired because it’s so intense. You’re there for two hours. I go back to the hotel. My wife was driving down to the south to see her friends in Murcia, where she grew up. Then she comes back and I go the next day for round two and finally at the end of the trip to visit, I find the little ante room and there was the Velazquez Christ, and the tears just start rolling down my face – it’s the most beautiful painting.
As I’m sitting there, the places are closing and people are filing out. As I’m standing there taking this in, this woman taps me on the shoulder and she looks at me and she has a camera and I think she was from Japan but she goes, ‘Photo?’ I literally think I said to her, I was like, ‘Could I have just one more moment with Christ, if you don’t mind and then I’ll take the photo? Just one last moment with Jesus on the cross here, and then you and I will do the photo.’ But I find that usually there it’s the opposite. People kind of leave you alone.
For celebrities now it seems like it’s become a 24/7 newscyle. How do you two manage to live with that? Is it easier as it goes along? Do you get disguises? Wasn’t there somebody who just said he wears a false nose?
Demi Moore: Who does that? I don’t know who that is. I have known of people who’ve had full CIA-type masks made. I know someone.
Alec Baldwin: Really?
Demi Moore: Yeah, big actor, big director.
Alec Baldwin: Wow.
Demi Moore: I think he finally got busted because he went in some club and they noticed the same shoes. It was an old man mask and you could not tell a thing.
Alec Baldwin: I think and the same is true with her. Eventually, if you’re lucky, because I know that I only deal every day with what’s real. I don’t wake up in the morning and go, ‘Oh mirror, mirror on the wall. Who’s the most fabulous 59-year-old mediocre Trump impersonator of them all?’ I don’t go there ever, ever in a self-aggrandising way. I think for her and I, you wonder with what we’ve been through, that you just have to see that it’s not real. None of it is real. What they say about me, if I was who they said I was, I would have jumped off a cliff by now. I just don’t believe it’s real.
Demi Moore: You live with what you know is the truth and what’s important and you ride the wave of the other.
Alec Baldwin: You make your own world.
Will you go back to stage?
Alec Baldwin: Probably not in New York. In those moments that I have the time, in the seams of my schedule where I can do that. Long story short is maybe London, maybe L.A. I’d like to do something outside of New York. I’ve done New York before. I’d love to go to London. London’s my passion.
And Demi, you made your off-broadway debut which was very successful. Demi Moore: My one and only play.
Alec Baldwin: No.
Demi Moore: It is, my one and only play.
Alec Baldwin: You just don’t like the schedule.
Demi Moore: No, no. It was just, I think I had, it was with Circle Rep and it was overall a great, incredible experience. The Early Girl it was called. Caroline Kava wrote it.
Alec Baldwin: In what year?
Demi Moore: Like ’83.
Alec Baldwin: You were a child.
Demi Moore: Maybe ’84. I think that I had a terrifying experience which I’m sure everyone does, which is at one point came onto the stage and it was like I had left my body and I came back and I didn’t know where we were, what my line was. I think that so panicked me that I haven’t done another one.
Alec Baldwin: I love plays because I sit there, not all the time, but I’ll sit there and in some sense I’ll be in my dressing room and I’ll think, ‘My God. I’m going to go out there now and I know exactly what I’m going to say, I know exactly what you’re going to say. I know exactly what effect it’s going to have on them. I love it. I love doing plays.
Demi Moore: I would like to do it again. I think I should, because I would be cheating myself if I didn’t. I did one of those 24-hour plays. That’s the only other thing I’ve done and that was great. I did that here.
Where you do it all in 24 hours?
Demi Moore: Yes. It was great, though.